Minutes of the Conference between a Committee of
Congress, Washington, and Representatives of the
New England Colonies
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October 18[-24,] 1775
Minutes of a Conference held by the Delegates of the Hon. Continental
Congress with General Washington
October 18th. 1775.
Minutes of a Conference of the Delegates of the Hon. Continental
Congress, the Deputy Govirnours of Connecticut and Rhode Island,
the Committee of Council of Massachusetts Bay with General
Washington begun at Head Quarters Cambridge October
18th. 1775 and continued to the 22d. of the same Month.
Present His Excelly. General Washington
The Hon. Depy. Govr. Griswold |
Nathaniel Wales Esqr. | Connecticut. |
The Hon. Depy. Govr. Cooke | Rhode Island. |
The Credentials of the Several Members of this Conference for
Connecticut and Massachusetts Bay were then read.
The Presidt. of the Provincial Convention of New Hampshire
not yet attending General Sullivan was desired to attend this
Conference and took his Place accordingly.
The Members of the Conference then proceeded on the Instructions
from the Congress which were read through and then separately.
And it was considered.
First. To cause proper Methods to be taken for continuing the
Connecticut Troops now near Boston in the Continental Service
upon the same Terms as they are at present untill the last Day of
next December.
Resolved that it is the Opinion of the Members of this Conference
that the General immediately direct the Field Officers of the
Connecticut Troops, that they consult with their Inferiour Officers
and Men and endeavour to learn what Number of them will continue
in the Service to the last Day of December next upon the
present Terms and that as soon as possible.
The third Instruction was then read by Paragraphs containing
the following Articles, to wit. First what Number of Men the new
Army before Boston should consist of?
The Committee having been informed that this Question had
been lately agitated in the Council of General Officers desired the
Result might be communicated: by which it appears that it was
their unanimous Opinion that the new Army intended to lay
before Boston should not consist of less than 20,372 Men. In
which Opinion on a Consideration of all Circumstances this Committee
unanimously concurs.
2d. What should be the Pay of the Officers and Privates that of
some of the former in the present Army being it is apprehended
too low and that of the latter too high?
That of the Privates unanimously agreed cannot be reduced and
agreed by a Majority that raising the Pay of the Officers would be
inconvenient and improper. It was also unanimously agreed that
under the present Circumstances the Proposition of lowering the
Pay of the Troops would be attended with dangerous Consequences.
October 19. 1775.
The Members of the Committee to confer with General Washington
met.
Present as yesterday.
Mathew Thornton Esqr. President of the Convention of New
Hampshire attending took his Seat this Day.
1. It was proposed for Consideration what Number each Company
and how many Companies each Regiment should contain?
Agreed Unanimously that each Regiment consist of 728 Men
(including Officers) that it be divided into Eight Companies, each
Company to consist of One Captain, 2 Lieutenants, One Ensign,
4 Sergeants, 4 Corporals, 2 Drums or Fifes, 76 Privates.
2. Of what kind and Quality of Provisions a Ration should
consist?
Resolved That it be as follows
One Pound of Beef or ¾ lb Pork or one Pound of Salt Fish
One Pound of Bread or Flour per Diem.
Three Pints of Pease or Beans per Week or Vegetables equivalent
at 6s. per Bushel for Pease and Beans.
One Pint of Milk per Man per Day or at the Rate of 1d. per Pint
One half Pint of Rice or one Pint of Indian Meal per Man per
Week
One Quart of Spruce Beer or Cyder per Man per Day or 9
Gallons of Molasses per Company of 100 Men per Week.
Three Pounds of Candles to 100 Men per Week for Guards &c.
Twenty four lb. of soft Soap or 8 lb hard Soap for 100 Men per
Week.
3. What is the best Method of providing Arms for the Troops
to be engaged in the new Army?
Agreed that it be recommended to the several Assemblies or
Conventions of the respective Colonies to set and keep their several
Gunsmiths at Work to manufacture good Firelocks with Bayonets,
each Firelock to be made with a good Bridle Lock, ¾ of an
Inch in the Bore and of good Substance at the Breech, the Barrel
to be 3 feet 8 Inches in Length and a Bayonet of 18 Inches in the
Blade, with a Steel Ramrod the upper Loop to be trumpet
mouth’d. The Price to be fixed by the Assembly or Convention or
Committee of Safety of each Colony. And to import all that can be
procured.
Also that the good Arms of all such Soldiers as leave the Service
be retained on a Valuation made of them.
Friday October 20. 1775.
The Committee met present as before.
It was now proposed to the Consideration of the Members what
will be the best Method of providing Cloathing for the Troops
which are to compose the new Army.
Agreed that the Cloathing be provided by the Continent and
paid for by Stoppages out of the Soldiers Wages at 10s. per Month,
that as much as possible of the Cloth for this Purpose be dyed
brown and the Distinctions of Regiments made in the Facings.
Also that a Man who brings a good new Blanket into the Camp
should be allowed two Dollars therefor and take it away with him
at the End of the Campaign.
2d. What is the best Method of getting Provisions for the
Army?
Agreed that the best Method of procuring Salt Provisions will
be to drive the Cattle and Hogs at proper Seasons to the Camp
there to be cured and that the New England Colonies can fully
supply the Army with these Articles.
That in the Article of Flour and Bread the Commissary proceed
in the Way he has done for some Time past, that appearing to be
both safe and frugal.
3d. By whom the Officers should be chosen and recommended
and how the best Officers and Men in the present Army may be
engaged for the next making a complete Arrangement of the
whole?
Agreed that such Officers as have served in the present Army to
Approbation and are willing to stay be preferred; if there are more
of these than are necessary for the new Army the General to distinguish
such as he deems best qualified.
Agreed upon a Representation from the General that the Committee
recommend to the Continental Congress that proper Authority
may be given him to impress Carriages Vessels, Horses
and other Things necessary for the Transportation or March of the
Army, or any Part of it, or on any other Emergency, and that this
Power may be deputed in Writing under the Hand of the General
to the Quarter Master Gen. or to any Inferiour Officers, who are
to be accountable for any Abuse thereof.
October 21. 1775
The Members of the Conference met, present as before, except
General Sullivan.
It appearing on a full Discussion and Consideration of all Circumstances
that any Attempt to reduce the present Pay would
probably prevent the Soldiers reinlisting and that the Advancement
of the Season does not admit of any Delay in forming a new
Army, Agreed that it be proposed to the Officers now serving in
the present Army that they signify in Writing as soon as possible
which of them will continue to serve and defend their Country
and which of them will retire. And that such Officers as propose
to continue in the Service and are approved by the General proceed
to inlist their Men into the Continental Service upon the same Pay
and Allowance of Provisions as is now given. The Service to continue
to the last Day of December 1776, subject to be discharged
at any Time by the Continental Congress as has been heretofore
practised in the like Cases.
Agreed that if upon Tryal it should appear that the Number of
20,372 Men before resolved on cannot be raised out of the present
Army: that then the Officers appointed for the new Army, recruit
their several Regiments and Companies to their full Complement.
And in Case the Necessity of the Service should require it, the
General be impowered to call in the Minute Men or Militia from
this or the neighbouring Colonies according to the Nature and
Exigence of the Service.
The Rules and Regulations of the Continental Army were then
taken under Consideration and the following Alterations proposed.
1. All Persons convicted of holding an unwarrantable Correspondence
with or giving Intelligence to the Enemy shall suffer
Death or such other Punishment as a Genl. Court Martial shall
think proper.
October 22. 1775.
The Members of the Conference met.
Present as yesterday.
The Rules and Articles of the Continental Army were again
considered. Agreed
That it be recommended to the several Legislatures of the Colonies
or Conventions to enact some Law or pass an Ordinance inflicting
the following Punishment on Persons harbouring Deserters
knowing them to be such, viz. A Fine upon all such Offenders
not less than 30 or more than 50 Dollars. And in Case of Inability
to pay the Fine to be punished with Whipping not exceeding 39
Lashes for each Offence.
That any Person who shall apprehend a Deserter and bring him
to the Regiment to which he belongs upon a Certificate thereof by
the Colonel or commanding Officer of such Regiment be intitled
to receive 5 Dollars from the Continental Paymaster General
which is to be deducted out of the Pay of such Soldier.
2d. That all commissioned Officers found guilty by a General
Court Martial of any Fraud or Embezzlement shall forfeit all his
Pay be ipso facto cashiered and deemed unfit for farther Service as
an Officer.
3. That all non commissioned Officers or Soldiers convicted
before a Regimental Court Martial of stealing embezzling or destroying
Ammunition, Provisions, Tools or any Thing belonging
to the publick Stores (if a non commissioned Officer) to be reduced
to the Ranks and punished with whipping not less than 15 nor
more than 39 Lashes, at the Discretion of the Court Martial, if a
private Soldier with the same corporal Punishment.
That it be recommended to the several Legislatures of the Colonies
to impower the Commander in Chief or the Officer commanding
a Detachment or out Post to administer an Oath and swear
any Person or Persons to the Truth of any Information or Intelligence
or any other Matter relative to the publick Service.
That in the Punishment of cashiering an Officer for Cowardice
or Fraud it be added that the Crime, Name, Place of Abode and
Punishment of the Dilinquent be published in the News Papers
in and about the Camp and of the Colony from which the Offender
came and where he usually resides after which it shall be deemed
scandalous for any Officer to associate with him.
That the 3d. Article of the Rules &c. be amended by making
the Punishment refer to the 2d. instead of the 1st. Article.
That the 5th. Article be amended by making the Offence punishable
with Death or otherwise at the Discretion of a General
Court Martial.
That the 8th. Article be amended to make Deserters to the
Enemy who may afterwards fall into our Hands punishable with
Death or otherwise at the Discretion of General Courts Martial.
That Article 20. and 21. be amended by punishing the Offences
therein specified in the following Manner viz. An Officer offending
be cashier’d and drumm’d out of the Army with Infamy, a
private Soldier to be whipp’d not less than 20 Lashes nor more
than 39 according to the Nature of their Offence.
That the 17th. Article be amended by expressing the Punishment
following viz. The Officer be mulcted in one Months pay for
1st. Offence, Cashiering for the second. A Soldier to be confined
for 7 Days on Bread and Water for the 1st. Offence, for the second
the same Punishment with a Forfeiture of one Weeks Pay.
That the 25th. Article be amended by leaving out the Word
immediately and after the Word Death substituting the Words “by
any Person on the Spot.”
That the 29th. Article be amended by making the Embezzlement
of the Stores therein mentioned punished as the like Offence
upon the Stores &c. mentioned in the 15th. Article of the Rules
and Regulations of the Army.
That the 30th. Article be amended by making the Offences
punishable as the Breach of the 20th. and 21st. Articles together
with the Forfeiture of all Share of Plunder taken from the Enemy.
That the 55th. Article be amended by expressing the Punishment
viz. cashiering and mulcting of his Pay.
That the 57th. Article be amended so as to include all Surgeons
and their Mates and make the Offence of giving a false Certificate
of Health punishable as a false Certificate with respect to Absence.
It appearing that both General and Special Orders are not duly
obeyed agreed that it be recommended to the Honble. Congress
to form a new Article by which Officers and Soldiers wilfully or
negligently disobeying such Orders be punished at the Discretion
of a Regimental Court Martial when the Offence is against a Regimental
Order by a General Court Martial when the Offence is
against Orders given by the Commander in Chief or of any Detachment
or Post and such General Court Martial can be had.
The Committee then proceeded to the Consideration of such
Matters as have been mentioned in the Generals Letters to the
Congress upon which no Order had been made.
First. What Steps are necessary to be pursued with Regard to
Dr. Church? If guilty, the Articles for the Government of the
Army point out a very inadequate Punishment, and to set him at
Liberty must be exceedingly dangerous?
Upon a Discussion of all Circumstances it was agreed to refer
Doctor Church for Tryal and Punishment to the General Court of
Massachusetts Bay: But that no Procedure be had hereupon untill
the Pleasure of the Congress be known on the late Application
made by the General.
2. What Distinctions are necessary to be made between Vessels
and Cargoes taken by the armed Vessels in the Pay of the Continent
and those taken by Individuals? Should not the fitting out of
Privateers by Individuals be done under some Authority and Accidental
Captures subject to some Regulations to prevent Piracies
and other capital Abuses, which may arise?
Agreed that the General Court ought properly to take Cognizance
of all armed Vessels fitted out by Individuals in this Province
and that Commissions should be granted in such Cases; at least
that Captures be made under some Authority. That Captures
made by armed Vessels in the Pay of the Continent be disposed of
by the General for the publick Use untill the Continental Congress
give farther Direction.
The Delegates then proposed to the Consideration of the Members
what Number of effective Men it may be expected that the
Colonies of New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Connecticut and
Rhode Island could and would furnish by the 10 March next and
on what Terms.
The Massachusetts Gentlemen were of Opinion that 20,000
effective Men might be raised in this Province to serve the next
Campaign if absolutely necessary on the Terms of the present
Army viz. A Coat, 40 s. per Month, one Months Wages being
advanced, and a greater Number to come on a special Emergency.
The Connecticut Gentlemen were of Opinion that 8000 Men
may be raised in their Province to serve the next Campaign on the
Terms of the present Army viz. 40 s. per Month and 40 s. Bounty.
The President of New Hampshire Convention gave his Opinion
that his Colony could furnish 3000 Men for the next Campaign at
the Rate of 40 s. per Month without a Bounty unless a Bounty
was given by the adjoining Colonies, in which Case they would
expect it.
The Governor of Rhode Island gave his Opinion that Province
could not go farther than they had done this Campaign viz. to
raise 1500 Men on the same Terms.
Upon considering the additional Instruction it was unanimously
agreed that the Number of Forces necessary for the Northern
Department depended so much on Events and particularly the
Success of the present Expedition against Canada that no probable
Calculation can be made at this Time. Therefore deferred.
It was then deliberated what should be done with Tory Property;
how is it to be applied or treated? Some of the Tories have
Estates near the Camp at Cambridge, which have Wood upon
them and other Articles wanted for the Army ought they to be
meddled with?
Agreed that the Determination of this Matter be referred to the
Congress.
The General then proposed the following Question
Should there not be a reasonable Price fixed upon Wood, Hay
and other Articles wanted for the Army to prevent Imposition and
Extortion?
Agreed that if it be indispensably necessary, such Articles
should be valued and taken at such Valuation for the Use of the
Army and that a Regulation corresponding herewith be recommended
to the General Court of Massachusetts Bay.
The Conference then broke up with the several Governours of
Connecticut Rhode Island and the President of the Convention of
New Hampshire and the Committee of Council for Massachusetts
Bay.
October 23d. 1775
The Delegates now proceeded to confer with General Washington
as well on sundry Matters mentioned in his Letters to the Congress
upon which no Order has been made as also upon other Matters
occurring in the Course of this Business, and
First. In the new Establishment of the Army should the General
Officers be allowed Regiments and the Field Officers Companies?
Agreed in the Negative unanimously.
Secondly. The Affairs of the Hospital require a Director General
if Doctor Church is adjudg’d unworthy of continuing in that
Office. Lt. Col. Hand late a Surgeon in the Army and Dr. Foster
are the only two who have made Application for the Office to the
General.
Agreed that it be referrd wholly to the Congress.
3. In what Light are Vessels which are made Captives of with
their Cargoes to be considered? that is what Part is to be assigned
the Captors in the Pay of the Continent and whose Vessels are
fitted out at the publick Expence and how is the Residue of the
Vessel and Cargo to be disposed of?
The Instructions given by the General to the armed Vessels now
out being considered were approved (except that one third of the
whole Capture be allowed the Officers and Men without any Reserve).
4. What is to be done with Prisoners taken in Transports by
Vessels either in the Continental Pay or others? are they to be
detained as Prisoners or released? if the former what Distinctions
are to be made between those taken by the Continental Vessel and
others (In Respect to the Generals Cognizance of them is meant)?
Agreed that all Persons taken in Arms on Board any Prize be
deemed Prisoners at the Disposal of the General as well such Prizes
as are taken by Vessels fitted out in the Pay of the Continent as
others. That all Vessels employed merely as Transports and unarmed
with their Crews be set at Liberty upon giving Security to
return to Europe but that this Indulgence be not extended longer
than to the 1st. April next.
5. In what Manner are Prisoners to be treated? What Allowance
made them and how are they to be cloathed?
Agreed that they be treated as Prisoners of War but with Humanity.
And the Allowance of Provisions to be the Rations of the
Army. That the Officers being in Pay should supply themselves
with Cloaths, their Bills to be taken therefor and the Soldiers
furnished as they now are.
6. Suppose Troops should be landed at New York is it expected
that any Part of the Army before Boston be detached whilst the
ministerial Troops remain there?
Agreed That the Number of Men in the new Army being calculated
to oppose the Army at Boston, It is not expected that the
General should detach any Part of it to New York or elsewhere
unless it appears to him necessary so to do for the common Safety.
7. Ought not Negroes to be excluded from the new Inlistment
especially such as are Slaves? All were thought improper by the
Council of Officers?
Agreed, that they be rejected altogether.
[8.] How often should the Troops be paid? The General Officers
were divided on this Point some were for a Payment per Month
and others every three Months?
Agreed, That they be paid monthly.
9. Are the Rations which have been allowed the Officers, and
have been issued an Account thereof given to the Congress and
now laid before the Committee agreeable?
Agreed That the present Allowance be continued as being usual
and necessary.
10. It is adviseable to propose an Exchange of Prisoners? Should
any of the Officers and Soldiers in the Army or Navy now in our
Power be given up for any except the Officers and Soldiers of the
American Army?
Agreed that the Exchange will be proper, Citizens for Citizens,
but not Officers and Soldiers of the regular Army for Citizens.
11. A Proposition has been made in Behalf of Ensign Moland
to go and reside among his Friends in Pennsylvania giving his
Parol. Would this be disagreeable?
Agreed that under all Circumstances it is best he should remain
where he is.
12. Artificers of different Sorts have been employed on the best
Terms they could be got, but may nevertheless appear high, none
having less than 1 s. extraordinary for every Day they work, Some
£4 10 s. per Month and with great Difficulty got on those Terms,
is this agreeable?
Agreed that it is and that the General go on upon the present
Agreement as being the best that can probably be made.
13. The Riffle Companies have exceeded their Establishments
in Point of Numbers, but have nevertheless been paid as they had
no more Officers than were allowed by Congress. Is this right?
Agreed, That the General pick out from each Company such as
are not Marksmen and dismiss them in such a Manner as may be
safest with an Allowance of Pay to go Home, and in the mean
Time that all recieve their Pay.
14. Very unhappy Disputes prevail in the Regiment of Artillery.
Col. Gridly is become very obnoxious to that Corps and the
General is informed that he will prove the Destruction of the
Regiment if continued therein. What is to be done in this Case?
Agreed that as all Officers must be approved by the General if
it shall appear in forming the new Army that the Difference is
irreconciliable Col: Gridly be dismiss’d in some honourable Way,
and that the half Pay which he renounced by entering into the
American Army ought to be compensated to him.
15. Artillery of different Kinds will be wanted how is it to be
got and where?
Agreed, That what can be spared from New York and Crown
Point be procured.
16. Engineers also much wanted where can they be got?
Agreed to recommend to the Congress Henry Knox Esqr. and
Lieut. Col. Puttnam who have Skill in this Branch as Assist.
Engineers with suitable Pay and Rank as Lieut. Colonels, the
present Pay of Assistant Engineers being deemed too small.
17. Several Indian Chiefs of the St. Francis, Penobscot
Stockb[ridge] and St. Johns Tribes have been to offer their Services
and told they would be called for if wanted and dismiss’d with
Presents. Ought they to be called if a Necessity for them should
appear and is the giving them Presents proper?
Agreed That these Indians or others may be called on in Case of
real Necessity and that the giving them presents is both suitable
and proper.
18. Would it not be adviseable to have Expresses posted along
the Roads at different Distances Persons of Character for the Purpose
of conveying early and frequent Intelligence?
Agreed that such a Regulation is highly necessary but that the
Mode of carrying it into Execution be left to the Congress.
19. Lead and Flints are much wanted where and in what Quantities
can they be procured?
Agreed that as much Lead as can be spared from the Northern
Department and is wanted here should be sent down from Ticonderoga
and all other Supplies of the Articles attended to.
20. Several issuing Commissaries and Clerks are necessarily
employed under the Commissy. General: For whom no Provision
is made. Several Assists. Quarter Masters are also employed in
order to discharge that Duty. A Clerk is and allways has been
found necessary to assist in the Office of the Adjut. General. What
Pay should be allowed them?
The Commissary being sick and unable to explain the Duty of
these Commissaries Clerks &c. Agreed that he draw up a Memorial
to the Congress stating the Ranks, Duties &c. of the several
Officers under him: that the Quarter Master Genl. do the same to
inable the Congress to fix the Proportion of Pay to be allowed
them. That these Memorials be first shewn to the General and by
him transmitted to the Congress.
21. Six Vessels (armed) are now fitted out and fitting upon the
best Terms to intercept the Enemys Supplies, will this be agreeable
to the Congress?
Agreed that this Committee approve the Scheme and recommend
it to the Congress.
October 24. 1775.
The Committee proceeded in their Conference on the Generals
Queries.
When the Army receives such Supplies of Powder as to be
enabled to spare some to the Country, how and upon what Terms
is it to be done?
Agreed that it be sold them at a reasonable Price.
2d. Tents, if the Army should have Occasion to take the Field
next Spring will be indispensably necessary for both Officers and
Men, how are they to be provided and are the Officers to be
allowed any?
Agreed that it be recommended to the Congress to pay an early
Attention to this Article and if the Pay of the Officers is not
considerably increased that Tents be allowed them.
The General informed the Committee that he had given particular
Orders that all the Tents now in Use should be carefully
pack’d up in proper Places during the Winter.
The Council of War lately held having in Consequence of an
Intimation from the Congress deliberated on the Expediency of an
Attack upon Boston and determined that at present it was not
practicable, The General wishes to know how far it may be
deemed proper and adviseable to avail himself of the Season to
destroy the Troops who propose to winter in Boston by a Bombardment,
when the Harbour is block’d up or in other Words
whether the Loss of the Town and the Property therein are to be so
considered as that an Attack upon the Troops there should be
avoided when it evidently appears the Town must of Consequence
be destroyed?
The Committee are of Opinion this is a Matter of too much
Consequence to be determined by them therefore refer it to the
Hon. Congress.
The General then requested that the Committee would represent
to the Congress the Necessity of having Money constantly
and regularly sent and that some Regulations upon this Head
should be made as soon as possible.
Also that the Congress would be pleased to establish or recommend
it to the Legislature of this Colony to establish some Court
for the Tryal and Condemnation of Vessels taken from the Enemy,
so that they may be distinguished from those of a different Character
and all Abuses prevented as much as possible.
A true Copy of the Minutes of the Conference held by the Delegates
from the Continental Congress with General Washington.
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